Ste. Therese De Blainville, QB Airliner Crashes, Nov 1963

Shattered Airliner Quebec CAN plane crash site 11-29-1963.jpg

A little one-storey bungalow farmhouse occupied by FERNAND GUILBEAULT, his wife and seven children quickly was commandeered as a temporary headquarters pending establishment of a more complete setup in Notre Dame de l'Assomption Roman Catholic School in Ste. Therese.
Extra telephone lines were being installed to handle the gathering of evidence and information on the human remains today.
Most bodies were so badly smashed that identification was considered by one TCA official to be hopeless.
He said that in some similar crashes, relatives had agreed to a mass burial of the victims on the spot.
To reach the scene from Highway 11, working crews had to slosh through mud about knee deep in places. A continuing cold rain fell through the late hours of Friday night and early today.
An unidentified provincial police officer waded into the crater and recovered what appeared to be the aircraft's log book.
TCA officials said early today it was not known whether searchers had salvaged the plane's flight recorder -- important in determining exactly what happened before the crash.

HERE IS LIST OF CRASH VICTIMS.

Montreal (CP) -- Following is the official list of crew members and passengers killed Friday in the TCA DC-8 crash:

Crew (7):
Capt. JACK D. SNIDER, 47, Toronto.
First Officer HARRY J. DYCK, 35, Toronto.
Second Officer EDWARD B. BAXTER, 29, Toronto.
Purser JAMES E. ZIRNIS, 24, Toronto.
Stewardess KATHLEEN PATRICIA CREIGHTON, 23, Veteran, Alta.
Stewardess LINDA SLAGHT, 22, Toronto.
Stewardess LORNA JEAN WALLINGTON, 21, Calgary.

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Comments

This was my fathers regular

This was my fathers regular flight home but missed it because he had met up with an old friend who invited him to a party. Ironically this party is where he met my mother. It's amazing how one decision changes the course of the future. Had he had been on the flight I would not be telling you this story.......

My heart goes out to the families who lose a loved one......this flight touches close to home.....

I will keep you all in my thoughts and prayers...:)

Looks like the same kind of problem Eastern Airlines 304 had!

While they never really concluded in the direct cause of the accident. On 25 February 1964, a similar DC-8 leaving the(Moisan)New Orleans Airport Easern Airlines 304 only flew for couples of minutes and plunge into the Lake Pontchartrain killing all of its passengers.

According to the final CAB report File No. 1 -0006.It was question of the Plane's unstability due to the trim or compensator that was in default. The Pilots could not correct the plane nose angle (AND) and utimately fought to regain the plane until the water contact.

In the case of The Trans Canada Airline (Plane was leaving east and had to turn north towards the Laurentians and then a west turn to Toronto.),the same thing happen, many observers including the tower saw the gain up of altitude the plane did in it's first minutes and suddenly while in its phase of turning north-west over Ste-Therese de Blainville plunge in a very accuentuated angle (more than 20 degrees).

The lenght of the airborne airplane was about the same as Eastern Airline 304 over Lake Pontchartrain(about 8-10 minutes). Since they were still on their ascending phase of trip.

They must have been around between 12000-15000 feet trying to climb at their cruising altitude towards Toronto.

The Canadian TSB-BST should re open that case and try to give another look at the reasons why that plane went down.

50th Anniversary

I lost my father - Michael - on the flight - like some of the other stories here - but in reverse - he was due on an earlier flight but due to weather and traffic , he ended up on this fateful flight. RIP to all on TCA831.

My father isn't listed

My father isn't listed either. Philip Reid Austin of Don Mills. Off to Montreal tomorrow for the families to finally get together and commemorate the 50th anniversary.

D W Pollock was my uncle, he

D W Pollock was my uncle, he was 18 years old & was born in Scotland. He was travelling from Montreal back to Toronto with his boss. He wasn't supposed to be on this flight but they managed to get seats at the last minute trying to get home earlier.

My grandfather is on that

My grandfather is on that list but unfortunately you spelt his name wrong. Is there any way to fix it? His name was C. R. Elford. Right now it says Eldord and it disturbs me a bit. Thanks.

My father also

My father also missed/changed this flight as he ran into a friend at the last minute where he was invited to attend a party. This party is where he met my mother. Talk about twist of fate......had he had been on the flight my siblings and I would not be here as well as my parents grand-kids.......I believe 11 people were not on the flight for various reasons. My father had no idea the flight crashed until the following morning. Once he heard he called my granparents as they were frantic because they knew he was suppose to be on this flight. They were relieved to know that he was alright....:) I think about it alot......and how things could have been so different........

crash of 1963

hi all .i was on a flight from moncton that night and was held up by fog in moncton.i was late getting into mtl and missed my conection on that flight.i called a friend in montreal and stayed at her place overb night and took the train in the am to toronto.thank goodness i was able to do this as i had a bad flight to moncton the previous week.left toronto thurs at 7 am and got mtn 3pm on sunday.sure got a lot of bonus yrs for sure god rest their souls

Harold Andrejeski

My grandfather was on this flight. My mother had a dream of crash a week before the flight. She begged him not to go and to make her feel better he said he would not go but he went anyway. Exactly what she dreamt happened...shortly after takeoff the plane would crash into a swamp area and everyone would be killed. My mother was 15 when her father died in this crash.

List of Passengers

I am looking for the list of the eight people who missed their flight that day, my father was one of them but wish to see him and his colleage in writing to confirm.