Ste. Therese De Blainville, QB Airliner Crashes, Nov 1963

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Trans-Canada Air Lines (TCA) Flight 831 was a flight from Montréal–Dorval Airport (now Montréal-Trudeau) to Toronto International Airport (now Toronto-Pearson) on November 29, 1963. The aircraft was a four-engine Douglas DC-8-54CF airliner, registered CF-TJN. About five minutes after takeoff in poor weather, the jet crashed about 20 miles north of Montreal, near Ste-Thérèse-de-Blainville, Quebec, Canada, killing all 118 people on board: 111 passengers and 7 crew members. The crash was the deadliest in Canadian history at that time, and is still the third-deadliest in Canada behind Swissair Flight 111 and Arrow Air Flight 1285. It was also the worst crash of DC-8 at the time, and is currently the sixth worst.

The plane was too badly damaged to determine a definite cause. Canadian aircraft were not required to carry voice cockpit recorders or flight data recorders at this point, complicating the investigation into the crash of TCA Flight 831. The official report released in 1965 pointed to problems in the jet's pitch trim system (the device that maintains a set nose-up or -down attitude) as a possibility, since a pitch trim problem caused the similar crash of Eastern Air Lines Flight 304, another DC-8, three months later in 1964. Other possible causes were put forward that could not be ruled out: 1) Icing of the pitot system; and 2) Failure of the vertical gyro.


This was my fathers regular

This was my fathers regular flight home but missed it because he had met up with an old friend who invited him to a party. Ironically this party is where he met my mother. It's amazing how one decision changes the course of the future. Had he had been on the flight I would not be telling you this story.......

My heart goes out to the families who lose a loved one......this flight touches close to home.....

I will keep you all in my thoughts and prayers...:)

Looks like the same kind of problem Eastern Airlines 304 had!

While they never really concluded in the direct cause of the accident. On 25 February 1964, a similar DC-8 leaving the(Moisan)New Orleans Airport Easern Airlines 304 only flew for couples of minutes and plunge into the Lake Pontchartrain killing all of its passengers.

According to the final CAB report File No. 1 -0006.It was question of the Plane's unstability due to the trim or compensator that was in default. The Pilots could not correct the plane nose angle (AND) and utimately fought to regain the plane until the water contact.

In the case of The Trans Canada Airline (Plane was leaving east and had to turn north towards the Laurentians and then a west turn to Toronto.),the same thing happen, many observers including the tower saw the gain up of altitude the plane did in it's first minutes and suddenly while in its phase of turning north-west over Ste-Therese de Blainville plunge in a very accuentuated angle (more than 20 degrees).

The lenght of the airborne airplane was about the same as Eastern Airline 304 over Lake Pontchartrain(about 8-10 minutes). Since they were still on their ascending phase of trip.

They must have been around between 12000-15000 feet trying to climb at their cruising altitude towards Toronto.

The Canadian TSB-BST should re open that case and try to give another look at the reasons why that plane went down.

50th Anniversary

I lost my father - Michael - on the flight - like some of the other stories here - but in reverse - he was due on an earlier flight but due to weather and traffic , he ended up on this fateful flight. RIP to all on TCA831.

My father isn't listed

My father isn't listed either. Philip Reid Austin of Don Mills. Off to Montreal tomorrow for the families to finally get together and commemorate the 50th anniversary.

D W Pollock was my uncle, he

D W Pollock was my uncle, he was 18 years old & was born in Scotland. He was travelling from Montreal back to Toronto with his boss. He wasn't supposed to be on this flight but they managed to get seats at the last minute trying to get home earlier.

My grandfather is on that

My grandfather is on that list but unfortunately you spelt his name wrong. Is there any way to fix it? His name was C. R. Elford. Right now it says Eldord and it disturbs me a bit. Thanks.

My father also

My father also missed/changed this flight as he ran into a friend at the last minute where he was invited to attend a party. This party is where he met my mother. Talk about twist of fate......had he had been on the flight my siblings and I would not be here as well as my parents grand-kids.......I believe 11 people were not on the flight for various reasons. My father had no idea the flight crashed until the following morning. Once he heard he called my granparents as they were frantic because they knew he was suppose to be on this flight. They were relieved to know that he was alright....:) I think about it alot......and how things could have been so different........

crash of 1963

hi all .i was on a flight from moncton that night and was held up by fog in moncton.i was late getting into mtl and missed my conection on that flight.i called a friend in montreal and stayed at her place overb night and took the train in the am to toronto.thank goodness i was able to do this as i had a bad flight to moncton the previous week.left toronto thurs at 7 am and got mtn 3pm on sunday.sure got a lot of bonus yrs for sure god rest their souls

Harold Andrejeski

My grandfather was on this flight. My mother had a dream of crash a week before the flight. She begged him not to go and to make her feel better he said he would not go but he went anyway. Exactly what she dreamt happened...shortly after takeoff the plane would crash into a swamp area and everyone would be killed. My mother was 15 when her father died in this crash.

List of Passengers

I am looking for the list of the eight people who missed their flight that day, my father was one of them but wish to see him and his colleage in writing to confirm.